Will Clinton's top-down or Obama's ground-up approach win state? (Dallas Morning News) Today, Texas voters decide who had the winning strategy: Mrs. Clinton's traditional top-down approach that allowed her to cash in on decades of political capital in Texas – or the ground-up grassroots movement from Obama enthusiasts that's garnered praise across the political spectrum. ....
Be sure to see Linda Curtis' comments on the video at the top of The Hankster....
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Showing posts with label grassroots and elites. Show all posts
Showing posts with label grassroots and elites. Show all posts
Monday, March 03, 2008
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Conversations on Independence
Let's talk about some of the psychological/cultural issues of the day. Ish has many good points in Three Scenarios posted on The Seminal, commenting on The Forgotten Reality in Reality-Based Politics by Kagro X on The Daily Kos--Ish's premise:
But, Ish says, grassroots Dems and Dem elites alike are afraid to move left....
Well put! At what point does someone decide to get out of an abusive marriage? Is what's "out there" more scary than staying put and putting up with continued abuse? Will your sister let you come live with her? Is there a knight on a white horse coming to take you out of there?
Fred Newman talks about independents and movement building this way this week in Talk/Talk "Apocalypse Now" :
Can we build somewhere else to go? Can independent voters, who "swung" left and put the Dems in control of Congress in the midterm elections, join with grassroots Dems to lead America to a new place?
"Many in the Democratic base feel trapped between a party elite that has all but betrayed them on the one hand, and on the other a gaping political void whose depths they are reluctant to explore...."Outlining 3 scenarios, 2 likely, and one that many independents are beginning to wish for, Ish goes on:
"The bind that Kagro X and many other Democrats find themselves in is real: the Elite doesn’t care if they are unhappy. The only way to make them listen, it may turn out, will be to vote for someone else en masse."
But, Ish says, grassroots Dems and Dem elites alike are afraid to move left....
Well put! At what point does someone decide to get out of an abusive marriage? Is what's "out there" more scary than staying put and putting up with continued abuse? Will your sister let you come live with her? Is there a knight on a white horse coming to take you out of there?
Fred Newman talks about independents and movement building this way this week in Talk/Talk "Apocalypse Now" :
"The fight going on is the people on the outside, whatever you want to call them – the people who are doing something new – to establish their group existence. It’s partly a psychological issue. In social therapy, we always talk to the group about building the group. But that’s very hard to do, because the individuated members are concerned with themselves, so creating a group is hard, even from the point of view of the people who are trying to build it. So, if you multiply that by millions, it’s hard to build a movement. The individuals – Perot, Bloomberg, whomever – who come and go for their own purposes aren’t going to build a movement. It’s got to come, somehow, from the millions of people “on the ground.” How do you acomplish that? How do you get independents to function as a mass movement? That’s very hard. And the Establishment is not going to give an inch on this. Not an inch. Independents are 40% of the electorate today. It could go up to 50%, 60%, 90%. It won’t make a difference...."
Can we build somewhere else to go? Can independent voters, who "swung" left and put the Dems in control of Congress in the midterm elections, join with grassroots Dems to lead America to a new place?
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